Given that, a millenium isn't much time at all for a society to decide that it's time to start a eugenics program that kills 90% of their offspring, and embrace a philosophy of genocide. And its easy to see why. Duh.". Location . Ya, I agree. In many ways the Nazi analogy fits very well, though such things are never perfect. Exactly! Not if Talos has anything to say about it. "Well?" While the Pocket Guide was surely propaganda and can be wrong on some things, it seems unlikely that an author from the province would get its climate wrong (as well as other NPCs who had been there.). By Alinor She is only has a sword. Like they are little brothers that need to be cared for. Auri-El helped to create the entire planet of Nirn, defeat Lorkhan and his armies, then finally ascended to heaven as the Divine you know as Akatosh. Maybe these true believers criticize mainstream Altmer society for its decadence and fixation on worldly goods and affairs, at the expense of their immortal birthright. In some Pagan belief systems, typically those that follow a Wiccan tradition, the focus of Beltane is on the battle between the May Queen and the Queen of Winter. I can see what a huge improvement Skyrim was, but you still wind up justifying yourself to Paarthurnax by saying "I like this world, and it would suck if it was nommed," or "It's my destiny. The Altmer of the Fourth Era are more radical than the Third Reich in many ways, and they've only got a few generations from ESO's date to make up the difference. AND NEVER TRUST A DOVAH.". 500-1000 is an arbitrary number but our best guess is less than 1000. A bit stuffy, I suppose, but he is an Altmer, after all.” They socialized with the queen for a while longer but excused themselves when some dignitaries came up … Talk to Queen Ayrenn. I know how very, very disappointing it was for your kind to watch a man achieve the apotheosis that your race craves, but will never realize. Alinor hasn't shared anything about themselves. I would rather not speculate about Ayrenn's fate as of this moment, or the fate of Emeric or Jorunn for that matter...I'll just wait until sometime after Launch. AND NEVER TRUST ADOVAH.”. According to the book “On Artaeum” the earliest written record of the Psijic Order is from 1E 20 lead by Ritemaster Iachesis. Ayren is not commonly used as a baby boy name. Tamriel Foundry is a proud partner of Gamer Launch offering full featured guild hosting services for serious gamers. And its easy to see why. But reshaping a person would be much much harder. altmer live average of 500 to rarely 1000 years old. After that they proceeded to dispose of those that would go against their rule (Nigh of Green Fire being a really good example). Aldmeri Dominion 4E 29. I doubt the final fates of the other alliance leaders will be revealed until Zenimax decide to end ESO’s story when the game has run its course. The Thalmor took the chance while Summeret was weakned after the Oblivion Crisis and took power and fed some bs to the people about them having finished it. They've even got agents among other races. When you manage to realize this but maintain your individuality, you gain power over the dream. Maybe he doesn't have a place in polite society, but bringing him into the mainstream is just a question of tipping points like the Numidium and the Crystal Tower. According to the book "On Artaeum" the earliest written record of the Psijic Order is from 1E 20 lead by Ritemaster Iachesis. Yeah, that why I said all and not only her. There were always those who wanted to unmake the world. In the book “The Real Barenziah, v 2″ it states that Elves have a thousand-year lifespan granted to them by the gods. For analogy's sake, think of it as lucid dreaming. You are simply screwed. They also have very conflicting philosophies. I should allow Battlereeve Urcelmo and Queen Ayrenn to consult. There's always been room for marked improvement in the writing, and I hope that ZOS continues the upward trend. I had a feeling someone from the Daggerfall or Ebonheart would come here to try and belittle our queen. That's true, Talos could certainly blot your pointy-eared queen from the annals of history. It is a reference to the Dominion Prism Textract. As stated and suggested in Elder Scrolls lore, Altmer are capable of living for hundreds, if not thousands of years. That would be a very interesting plot twist to the series, one I'm sure the developers won't hesitate in incorporating somewhere down the road. I blame the Thalmor. Maybe the extermination of mankind seems fanciful to all but a hardened cabal of extremists—the philosophical forerunners of the Thalmor. goodness and fluffy unicorns). We'll have to wait and see. If he asks why, I'll tell him "YOU'RE DUMB. Recommended by The Wall Street Journal In all seriousness, though, I think we’re demonstrating the possibilities fairly well. Queen Ayrenn Age: 801 Since the Throne of Alinor is inherited by right of birth, and relinquished upon death, this means Ayrenn could possibly be the Queen of Alinor until the day she dies. share. Welcome to Tamriel Foundry, your home for discussion, guides, and tools to optimize your Elder I hope not. Also, even if it turns out that Ayrenn is very open-minded, that wouldn’t have to mean that all 2nd Era Altmer were. Thanks :) 8 comments. Urcelmo then helped Kallian "Come on, we should get to the Queen and inform her of what has happened" he said. If Ayrenn is one of those true believers, I doubt we'd know. Your can read more here about how we use donations on the About Us page and learn what rewards But as long as they had Crystal-Like-Law, the moderates could keep the extremists at bay and they remained a fringe faction. Hitler was in large part able to play off the resentment Germans felt at their mistreatment, just like the Thalmor. That’s true, plus I think it would add some much needed depth to the new Aldmeri Dominion & Thalmor who currently only servetheroleof the generic bad guys who say mean things and try to kill you. I've never seen that in any books or referenced in-game. in Lore Library. A second factor is the destruction of the Crystal Tower. Allow Urcelmo and Ayrenn to Consult — game journal. Tamriel Foundry is created using content and materials from The Elder Scrolls Online © ZeniMax Online Studios, LLC or its licensors. Good catch, jester. Its possible, I guess, that Ayrenn had a change of heart I guess and converted to Nazism later in life. And we know how the second Dominion started anyway. "It did as the legend says. ”What is better? We have others who have lived extremely long (Divayth Fyr, Master Neloth) but they are all powerful magic users who unnaturally extend their lives. With regards to the Second Aldmeri Dominion...shouldn't it still be the 3rd? And if so, was/is she alive in Fourth Era during the events of TES V: Skyrim? if it’s done subtly and in the shadows. Other. Ex-Queen bassist John Deacon is worth £105m, but he’s been a recluse for 30 years living a life of blissful suburban retirement where it’s golf and anonymity that now rock his world. Aldmeri Dominion 4E 29. Either that or they might bereferencedin the lore of thenextElder Scrolls game with thepossibilityofQueenAyrenn making an appearance. A throne made of human hearts, you say?! That, or it naturally is that way due to time differences in the Elder Scrolls games. Ayrenn asked "What did you and Urcelmo find?" The May Queen is Flora, the goddess of the flowers, and the young blushing bride, and the princess of the Fae.She is Lady Marian in the Robin Hood tales, and Guinevere in the Arthurian cycle. Please disregard what was said just - Queen Ayrenn: Razum-dar was mentioned. How unique is the name Ayrenn? The 4th Era Dominion wants to wipe humanity of the face of Nirn and erase them from possibility. "The things I endure for my people". His first violent death was at the hands of Galerion a few hundred years before the events of TESO. Out of 6,028,151 records in the U.S. Social Security Administration public data, the first name Ayrenn was not present. She would be a bit of an odd ball, which would fit with the rest of her story. “AS GOOD A REASON AS ANY.” I should have killed him just for that. Together we shall speak for the Law and the Land and shall drive the mongrel dogs of the Empire from Morrowind.” ~ Dagoth Ur. Assuming the statement about Cyrodiil being a jungle based on the heavily biased Pocket Guide to the Empire and a supposed quote from Talos is true, why is there never a single recorded instance of himusingthat same power in the Summerset Isles? One of the titles given to Ayrenn-KINMUNE is "Anuielectorate Article 1245663245". on March 24th, 2013 It is the realization that all of existence is a dream. ZOS and BGS could take this anywhere they want. Please respect the Tamriel Foundry While I totally agree about hoping Ayrenn is just putting on a face for the non-Altmer masses, the Altmer back then were supposed to be more chill anyway. Good on ya! This means Mannimarco was at least 1100 years old when he was killed on 3E 433 during the events of TES IV: Oblivion. What blew my mind was going back to Oblivion and being confronted with the first dialogue with the Blade where your options are "Uriel Septim," or "The Blades." Freed, she unsheathed her sword and dove at the ogrim before it could reach the platform where Queen Ayrenn, King Camoran, and Daraneth were trapped. We might not even find out through the course of the game, really. He accepts his new role, and you tell the Queen what happened in Hectahame. "It was a trap" Kallian stated "Astanya was waiting in there with some Assassins. As Gladerunner said, if Ayrenn did get the Ruby Throne, that would make Queen Ayrenn a stain on history to be removed from the Empire's records. 71% Upvoted. Michael Fagan now: What happened to Queen’s bedroom intruder, played by Tom Brooke in The Crown Ewan Somerville 11/23/2020. Directing Queen Aryenn’s story away from the storybook adventurer princess would be a great start, even (or especially?) for example orcs rarely get to see 50 but the orc librarian in skyrim college of winterhold has been around since the 2nd era. Kjoret grabbed her … The last thing the Empire would want is for future generations of Altmer to be inspired by Queen Ayrenn's bravery in the face of the power hungry tyrant Tiber Septim, who's sole interest was world domination under the guise of "uniting Tamriel". Really now? She is young for a High Elf — a mere 28 years old — but she spent much of the first part of her life roaming the lands and seas of Tamriel, seeking adventure and the kind of education schools cannot impart. Your donations help to support Tamriel Foundry, fund further improvements, and unlock account perks! Sheogorath: "Hey, Queenie! It's easy to see how Tiber Septim and the Oblivion Crisis could've prompted radical shifts, and the analogy fits nicely with Germany. A tearing sensation ripped across her body as Kjoret formed another shade, this one to take her place in the chains. Queen Ayrenn Age: 801 Since the Throne of Alinor is inherited by right of birth, and relinquished upon death, this means Ayrenn could possibly be the Queen of Alinor until the day she dies. Our hearty throne. If Queen Ayrenn is never killed, this poses several questions such as what was her involvement in the Aldmeri Dominion of 2E 830? Considering Queen Ayrenn hastraveledacross Tamriel and likes to be at the forefront of the war, I doubt she spends much of her time “perched” atop the throne. We’d like to introduce you to our next Alliance leader, Ayrenn the Unforeseen Queen, reigning matria… 18/12/2012 Art / Media The Stories of Tamriel Aldmeri Dominion Queen Ayrenn Annexing Alsace-Lorraine after the Franco-Prussian War seemed like a bad idea at the time to many Germans, but once it was done, they couldn't help but feel slighted when the French annexed it right back at Versailles. Maybe all that's truly in place is the regimentation, the arrogance, the emotionless preoccupation with form and order. As stated and suggested in Elder Scrolls lore, Altmer are capable of living for hundreds, if not thousands of years. Alinor. http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mannimarco,_King_of_Worms, http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2869/12667390444_66a9840260_o.png. We have little time–the Bloodmoon sinks low in the sky. The modern day incarnation of the Thalmor (current rulers of the Dominion) didn't exist in Ayrenn's day. She is intelligent and honorable, with a genuine humility rarely seen among her people but she is also a decisive leader with a stubborn streak. He acts on my behalf. Queen Ayrenn Age: 275. The last thing the Empire would want is for futuregenerationsof Altmer to beinspiredby Queen Ayrenn’s bravery in the face of the power hungry tyrant Tiber Septim, who’s sole interest was world domination under the guise of “unitingTamriel”. Altmer. The Dungeon Crawler Network | Ashen Foundry | Tamriel Foundry. While it was still around, Altmer had to hope of ascension by following Auriel's lead in dracochrysalis. One accurate version. Hahaha I see you just made an account with my name, still I think the Queen will die in ESO. If you find typically paternalistic, but well-meaning High Elves to be more compelling, I guess that's an option too. Ayren is of Hebrew origin and it is used mainly in English. Centuries of living under (or even hiding from) Tiber Septim's Empire, and witnessing the horrors of the Oblivion Crisis in her homeland, may have drastically altered her once humble personality. Directing Queen Aryenn's story away from the storybook adventurer princess would be a great start, even (or especially?) Does your depravity know no bounds?! #fusrodah. Perhaps Ayrenn herself actually re-established the Aldmeri Dominion of 4E 29. [img]http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2869/12667390444_66a9840260_o.png[/img]. Queen Ayrenn will come after you now. This isn't a random number. "Renn!" We would struggle to even recognize the Altmer of the Second Era. I don't even see how what I've said is false. What's also quite possible, and what I prefer to believe, is that she's something of a Nazi now, but too cunning to say it aloud in mixed company. No wonder he had to lie aboutbecominga Divine so thatpeoplewould think his tyranny was eternal. Here she is, Queen Ayrenn, Founder of the first Aldmeri Dominion, in all her glory. The Germany of the First World War may have had seeds of nationalism  but they were a nicer sort than Hitler's Germany. The tying of Ayrenn to KINMUNE is the blatant point of the thing, so that doesn't take much analysis. That’s true, Talos could certainly blot your pointy-eared queen from the annals of history. when commenting on articles. Below is a timeline of Queen Ayrenn's age during the establishment of each Aldmeri Dominion assuming she is alive that long: Since the Throne of Alinor is inherited by right of birth, and relinquished upon death, this means Ayrenn could possibly be the Queen of Alinor until the day she dies. Anyway, /rant. Prepare yourself, mortal, for now you are the Hunted.”. yes there is many exceptions im refering to the common lot. While a more than capable warrior, she can be very easy. Queen Ayrenn strode toward one of the staircases. The Isle of Artaeum disappeared at about the time of the founding of the Mages Guild on 2E 230, and "none but Iachesis and his own could shed light on the matter". One can only wonder at the sinister excesses of her rule. In the meantime, she asked me to travel to Marbruk, in Greenshade, and secure the Staff of Magnus from its vault. It's clearly some sort of conspiracy on their part to cover up the truth about the peg- and bandy-legged tyrant perched atop your haughty throne. Please respect the Tamriel Foundry on March 24th, 2013 She is also known as the "Unforeseen Queen," having mysteriously disappeared from Summerset as a child, only to return 17 years … "You doubtless will continue your journey east to convince the Kin of Orrery to support Ayrenn's policy. I'm not sure why we'd take anything the rulers say at face value, particularly in the case of Ayrenn. Like they are little brothers that need to be cared for. The earliest written record of Mannimarco is from 2E 230 as mentioned in the book “Mannimarco, King of Worms”. The Real Barenziah says that elves are granted a 1000 year life span but also that few ever live that long. [ syll. Queen Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri of Alinor was a leader of the Aldmeri Dominion in the Second Era. I think it's quite likely that extremist sentiments are already present in Altmer society to some extent. Relieved the Queen was not upset at her actions specifically, Kjoret asked quietly, "What happened to him, my Queen?" Jul 10, 2013 - This Pin was discovered by Rachel Davila. There’s no mention to a Second Era queen anywhere. Welcome to Tamriel Foundry, your home for discussion, guides, and tools to optimize your Elder More mages die.> Queen Ayrenn: "You can't ignore the world around you!" Yeah, that's actually one of the problems I've always had with the writing in Skyrim. Mannimaro was a lich though, so he doesn't count. Prepare yourself, mortal, for now you are the Hunted.”. "Do you mind telling me what happened?" These things have roots that go back much further than WWI. in Lore Library. Now, with the tower gone, their only hope of getting back to their prior state is to unmake creation. Kallian went straight to Queen Ayrenn as soon as she and Urcelmo came outside the temple. The earliest written record of Mannimarco is from 2E 230 as mentioned in the book "Mannimarco, King of Worms". Plus it wouldn't make much sense introducing Ayrenn as the leader and brainchild of the Aldmeri Dominion and then kill her off later in the game. While it was still around, Altmer had to hope of ascension by following Auriel’s lead in dracochrysalis. Queen Ayrenn Age: 275. Instead he resorted to using an ancient Dwemer weapon on Alinor, which suggests he never even fought any Altmer himself. Someone's probably thinking about it. That's one of the coolest things about TES lore: It's organic, naturalistic. And the much more logical explanation for her absence from any records is that Tiber Septim's Empire destroyed all records of her existence (most likely executing anyone who openly condoned her actions). To deny that would be to throw out everything we know about the Altmer, and I hope ZOS wouldn't go that route. I blame the Thalmor. If Queen Ayrenn is never killed, this poses several questions such as what was her involvement in the Aldmeri Dominion of 2E 830? I had a feeling someone from the Daggerfall or Ebonheart would come here to try andbelittleour queen. Doubt it. The First Dominion wasn’t asdraconianas the 4th Era dominion. Till then, take this twice daily to keep hope alive: Exactly! I should have killed him just for that. If Queen Ayrenn witnessed Tiber Septim's tyranny firsthand this could explain why the Thalmor are so opposed to the worship of Talos as a Divine. And because it has been eluded to that the Dominion requires a reboot, it's more likely he erased the history from a textual perspective. In many ways the Nazi analogy fits very well, though such things are never perfect. There's a small note that people may have missed. Fun Facts about the name Ayrenn. If you are looking for THE FASTEST, PROVEN leveling path to hit level 50, then this Elder Scrolls Online Guide offered by Killer Guides is inarguably a must-read! Till then, take this twice daily to keep hope alive: I think it would be pretty awesome if Lawrence Schick himself is the voice actor for the Lore Master of the Mages Guild. Auri-El helped to create the entire planet of Nirn, defeat Lorkhan and his armies, then finally ascended to heaven as the Divine you know as Akatosh. Back in the Second Era, the Altmer had never really suffered at the hands of mankind. "Queen Ayrenn wants the Kinlords of Summerset united under her banner. Maybe I will, later. (EDIT): I'd want it to, say, be a total surprise if/when it's revealed... *Formerly known by the username ”GarlasMalatar”*, ”What is better? Librarian Comment: This letter was physically mailed out to prominent community members as part of a promotional package for Elder Scrolls Online: Summerset. Elven. If Queen Ayrenn is never killed, this poses several questions such as what was her involvement in the Aldmeri Dominion of 2E 830? The way I imagine it, people of a mind with the Thalmor have always been in Alinor. 9/10) tells you how many lorebooks in that specific category […] There might be some bitter, peg-legged, formerly foxy elf queen running around in the Fourth Era, and Talos only knows what trouble she could get into. The last time it had come up in conversation, it was clear Ayrenn was still pained by the memory so Kjoret had changed the subject. Discover (and save!) Quest . As for the formation of the Second Aldmeri Dominion, we know literally nothing about the individuals behind the Thalmor or Aldmeri Dominion. What happened to Beth Harmon at the end of Scott Frank’s chess drama miniseries, The Queen’s Gambit? She would be a bit of an odd ball, which would fit with the rest of her story. This thread is archived. The Queen’s Gambit chronicles the tale of chess prodigy Elizabeth Harmon, who takes it upon herself to navigate the male-dominated world of chess during the Cold War era while struggling with addiction, deep-rooted emotional trauma, and loneliness. Ayrenn seems to look down on mankind in a sort of maternal way. It's true the Michael Kirkbride philosophy could be something that arose later in the development of the Altmer, but there's got to be some undercurrent of it, even in the present day. Highelf. Maybe I will, later. And if so, was/is she alive in Fourth Era during the events of TES V: Skyrim? No sure when or how. “My brother is a good man. Skyrim's writing was really pretty shallow. when commenting on articles. Then Tiber Septim comes along and murders thousands of people (conjecture) by invading with Numidium. Weird things about the name Ayrenn: The name spelled backwards is Nnerya. I really like this idea, it would make sense. Tamriel Foundry is created using content and materials from The Elder Scrolls Online © ZeniMax Online Studios, LLC or its licensors. Maybe, but there inst really a book or a piece of lore that talk about any of this alliance I doubt they make it out alive. Failed response to Capitol riot pushes police reckoning into new chapter. This means Iachesis was over 3000 years old at the time of its disappearance. It's always seemed that they've hoarded most of their knowledge to themselves; especially information about themselves and their homeland. I would hear what this one has to say. And the Night of Green Fire is a really bad example of anything unless you can find the source for where it came from. This means Mannimarco was at least 1100 years old when he was killed on 3E 433 during the events of TES IV: Oblivion. She returned to Summerset… Alinor hasn't shared anything about themselves. Below is a timeline of Queen Ayrenn's age during the establishment of each Aldmeri Dominion assuming she is alive that long: Since the Throne of Alinor is inherited by right of birth, and relinquished upon death, this means Ayrenn could possibly be the Queen of Alinor until the day she dies. hide. @Alys - To be fair, the Altmer have never been large contributors to our lore knowledge as far as I know. But unless we know the base value of what Phynaster added 100 years to it doesn't really help. I am going to assume that Ayrenn dies. I know how very, very disappointing it was for your kind to watch a man achieve the apotheosis that your race craves, but will never realize. At the moment, I have faith in Zenimax (if not more than Bethesda) that they'll treat Altmer lore properly and not just make the Aldmeri Dominion the 'bad guys' factions or vise versa (i.e. That's the sort of concern that could keep an order-loving, authority-worshipping, humanity-loathing Altmer up nights. In the book "The Real Barenziah, v 2" it states that Elves have a thousand-year lifespan granted to them by the gods. Hitler was in large part able to play off the resentment Germans felt at their mistreatment, just like the Thalmor. Or did they say somewhere that the one formed in 830 didn't happen now? Ayren is a derivative of the English, German, Hebrew, and Polish Aaron.. See also the related categories, english and hebrew. Then Tiber Septim comes along and murders thousands of people (conjecture) by invading with Numidium. Unmaking creation was always an option, even if they didn't think it was the only one (or even the best one). I wish they did a better job of explaining the AD of 4th era in Skyrim because we barely get any information about the formation and circumstances for the formation of the new AD. Kjoret asked gently. Scrolls Online experience. They didn't need to worry about mankind because they could reach ascension peacefully. The 4th Era Dominion wants to wipe humanity of the face of Nirn and erase them from possibility. Its possible, I guess, that Ayrenn had a change of heart I guess and converted toNazismlater in life. Assuming the statement about Cyrodiil being a jungle based on the heavily biased Pocket Guide to the Empire and a supposed quote from Talos is true, why is there never a single recorded instance of him using that same power in the Summerset Isles? That's true, plus I think it would add some much needed depth to the new Aldmeri Dominion & Thalmor who currently only serve the role of the generic bad guys who say mean things and try to kill you. 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